WTB: SCSI->Eth or LocalTalk -> Eth

I am looking for any thing to get my PB 145B on the internet. I am at my whits end trying to get IPNetRouter to work, and I am at the end of my rope. I can't get it to pass the IP packets over localtalk.

Looking for something like Asante mini EN/SC or possibly a localtalk to ethernet adapter. It must pass IP Packets<

Willing to spend $30+SH

The white Asante serial<->enet boxes will not work for you, btw.

I think you should try giving IPNetRouter another go just for the meantime.. it is not that hard.. but I cannot remember the procedure exactly, been too long. Find a guide online, they do exist.

Yes, the problem with the LocalTalk <=> Ethernet bridges such as the AsanteTalk and MicroAsantePrint is that they do not bridge TCP/IP. They only bridge AppleTalk. So one of those will not work for you. The SCSI <=> Ethernet adapter might work though. I don't think that they're protocol limited but they might be. I can't recall ever looking into it.

The Asante EN/SC model that has a HDI-30 connector most certainly will work. That is the only thing I personally would bother looking for.

Asante SCSI to Ethernet is what you want. I've used a Mini EN/SC with PB 160, 165 and 180, and several other macs, including my mac plus, in that case I just used to for appletalk (printing to my HP laserjet and file sharing w/ IIci... think I played a network game of spectre that way too)

(no you can't have mine, holding onto it for that PB180 I'm going to buy someday... )

I retract my buy statement. A kind soul here was able to get me one pretty cheap. Plz lock thread mods!

Well, while we're talking about this, I've been considering some kind of ethernet solution for my Classic II. I've seen some of those SCSI Asante adapters that can power themselves off an ADB port. Would something like that be suitable for adding ethernet to a Classic II? Or are there better solutions? I seem to have no problems with AppleTalk on my Netgear modem/router (DG834G).

Get the Apple IP Gateway software. It bridges AppleTalk and IP seamlessly, and it's a cinch to set up.

Apple IP Gateway can also be used with the Apple Internet Router to provide an interesting use for an old Mac. Best used on a fast 68030 with Nubus (needs ethernet) or a Quadra.

Both are 68k code.

A couple of years back, I played around with all kinds of these devices.

The SCSI-Ethernet devices that I tested worked well. My favorite is the Dayna Pocket SCSI/Link devices, mainly because they seem to follow the standard SCSI Ethernet protocol -- there was even an Amiga driver written for them. I think there are other Dayna SCSI/Link models, but I like the Pocket models because they can be powered from the 5v ADB port. I was also successful with the Asante Micro EN/SC and Mini EN/SC (the Micro models are also powered from the ADB port). I've yet to test a Focus-branded adapter (in my TODO list).

Next on my preference would be the hardware-based MacIP routers with both Ethernet and LocalTalk ports. The Cayman Gatorbox and Shiva FastPath are the common ones, but I've tested others from Compatible Systems (the Compatible Systems RISC Router 3000E has the fastest processor I've tested to perform MacIP routing for a router with both Ethernet and LocalTalk ports).

Next would be software-based MacIP routers running on an intermediary Mac that has both LocalTalk and Ethernet ports. IPNetRouter is still supported by the manufacturer and I've tested it running on 7.6.1 with Open Transport. Apple used to make one called Apple IP Gateway but it doesn't run over Open Transport; it runs over MacTCP, so if your Mac "router" is running an older system (maybe 7.1), this would also work. If you want the Apple IP Gateway approach, I have an unopened shrink-wrapped copy I could sell ($20 + shipping?).

Finally would be software-based MacIP routers running on systems with only an Ethernet port. You will also need a LocalTalk-Ethernet bridge with this. Some LocalTalk-Ethernet bridges are very picky. I've had difficulty getting the Asante boxes to work. The Farallon and Sonic System devices seem to work, but others have mentioned that there were stability problems with them, sometimes just dropping the bridge connection. As far as the software part (the actual MacIP router), I am trying to resurrect MacGate or macipgw running on Linux -- I've got a small Seagate Dockstar running Debian Linux that I want to use for this purpose.

/pitz

Turns out the Asante EN/SC the guy sent me was the DESKTOP version. I have contacted him, but in the meantime, does anyone know what pin that the HDI-30 doesn't provide power on that that keeps the Desktop adapter from working?

Or should I just send it back and get my $$ back?

If I Can hook up something like 3.3/5v, I would do it, unless someone wants to trade

I am going to have to get my money back. Asante specifically lists that it will NOT work with several models, and goes out of it's way to list the entire powerbook family.

so if anyone wants to trade for the Mini. I have this which powers off the SCSI port (which works on the LC II btw got it running on it now) So anyone want to trade?

Speaking of which, I got the IP Net Router to pass SOME TCP/IP packets.

I still can't get the IRC to work, but I can somewhat get on the net. where would I get the Apple IP Gateway software. I can't find it anywhere on the net. If someone knows, please let me know. I would love to try it out!

I have a asante mini en/sc i'll trade for the desktop version??

I think the Desktop en/sc powers from the SCSI termination power and power books do not provide any. IIRC, neither does the Macintosh Plus, so that leaves me wondering if those would work with the Plus.

A simple work around would be to connect an external device which has SCSI Termination Power set to 'On'.

Actually, I just got it working last week. I ended up pulling the 1GB SCSI HDD from my Mac LC II and hooked it between the PB 145B and the ethernet. The SCSI HD (IBM 31080 (1.08GB) drive provided the power. So the PB 145B has been on the net, and I do IRC on it. Having issues with getting the system to connect over TCP/IP on the OS I install on the PowerBook. The system I booted from that was used on the LC II has no issue. For some reason, I can't get the the system (whether copied or freshly installed) to connect TCP/IP while booted from the internal 80MB HDD. It has enough RAM not to run OT, but it seems not to be loading it, nor providing the TCP/IP control panel.

Is there something wrong with the drive?